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 Post subject: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:03 am 

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This is peripheral isn't it?


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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:42 pm 

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Small green socket. It has everything a normal motherboard has except the socket itself; replaced with a soldered cpu

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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:28 pm 

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I thought it had to have a socked CPU.
I guess I misunderstood something.....a lap top MB will go peripheral if it has a soldered CPU instead of socketed CPU?


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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:23 am 

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Full spec motherboards with a soldered cpu get green small socket.
Unless that’s changed in the last few months.
I’ll double check Monday

Laptop motherboards with a socket go as large socket
Laptop (not netbook etc) motherboards that are otherwise full spec and standard size with a soldered cpu go as green small socket.

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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:36 am 

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Ohh ok, I guess I need to go back and look at that one lap top board and see what I missed.


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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:53 pm 

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Motherboards is a set of categories that 99% of the boards fit nicely. Large is large. Small is small, green is green. Etc.
As I layed out from my ITX experiences and discussions with Chris:
A motherboard requires:
CPU socket or soldered cpu
A bridge chip (gold corner)
An I/o controller or second bridge chip (gold corner)
One or more ram sockets
One or more card or bus sockets
Internal I/o ports
External I/o ports


The three category benders are laptop boards, old (pre Pentium), and itx boards.

Laptop boards that are full boards and have a socket or soldered cpu will go as large socket.
Some laptops split the motherboard across more than one board and these will usually get peripheral on all the boards. Reason being none of them clear the Motherboard requirements alone.
Dell and Asus are notorious for this.

Old motherboards are full of gold sockets. Any board that uses DIP (dual inline pin) sockets for the cpu and/or memory is usually going to get large socket, with all the ICs removed. Many can get telco with all the sockets occupied

Slot processor boards always go as large socket. BTX boards with the gigantic riser/bus socket(s) get large socket for the same reason. The card socket is the equivalent of a large socket in value.

Itx: is the kicker here. Most of us, no matter how new to the industry, can instantly recognise an ATX or its dozen variants as a motherboard without asking. Measure the socket and you know where it goes. Anything with a huge slot in the middle is probably also going in large motherboard. Fairly easy to figure that out.

Itx is the outsider. The only thing standardised on ITX is where the back plate lines up in the case and EVEN THAT tends to be ignored by manufacturers. Itx is generally used for embedded (set top box, cable box, atm, video game systems) and small form factor (cameras, tablets) devices.
If it has everything the normal motherboard has, only smaller and with a soldered cpu, it will go as small socket.
If it’s missing any of the large/small socket motherboard requirements it goes as peripheral.
Tablet boards and digital camera motherboards usually go as telco.

When in doubt post a picture. We’ll figure it out.

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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:29 pm 

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A week or so back I posted a picture of the laptop board and you said it was peripheral. That's why I thought the small MB earlier in this post was peripheral since it has a soldered CPU instead of socketed. That's why I'm saying I missed something some where. I will post a another picture of the laptop board, so I can understand why it's peripheral.

Thanks for all your patience :)


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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:33 pm 

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Looking at it now....I don't see any gold corner chips.


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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:38 pm 

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Unless it’s on the other side, which is unusual, the cpu is missing here. With no socket and no cpu it is missing one of the requirements for motherboard, hence cpu.

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 Post subject: Re: Peripheral?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:42 pm 

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Ohh ok I thought the chip closest to the black sockets was the the CPU.


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