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 Post subject: The tools for the job!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:09 pm 

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I'm going to list my suggestions (and generally what's in my tool kit) for repairing and scrapping material.

For obvious reasons let's start with safety.
Gloves:
Shoes: shoes
because dropping a server on your foot hurts.

Masks : because you are bound to get mad. ;) honestly though these are in inexpensive way to keep dust and particulate matter out of your lungs. It's not a respirator but works for anything not involving heat/gases.

Safety glasses. for your eyes..self explanatory.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:10 pm 

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Tools
I have 3 primary sets of tools.
My primary hand tools is the large "gift" set from
tekton
The rubber insulation on the handles are not electrical grade but do fine for shorting caps and are comfortable.

The second set is no longer made but you can find them on eBay and Amazon.
The Husky Christmas and/or father's day set with the big fat handles and short necks.
They are low amperage safe. Up to about 15amps.

My third set is the precision tools set from iFixIt
Great sets


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:11 pm 

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Power tools. Fun toys to make things go faster!
Ryobi power drill/driver. Any of them work. I have two so I'm not switching bits all the time.

A rotary tool. Again i use two. One is a 12 amp i use for heavy cutting like scoring server boards and slicing through heatsinks.
The other is a 0.8 amp junker i use with carbon blades for slicing ics loose and removing pins. I use dremal blades and bits in both a tiny 10c rubber washer was all i needed to make a tight fit to stabilise the bits.

An angle grinder (again ryobi). Great if you do a lot of non-tech scrap. Spark charts on the internet will teach you what to look for to further separate different classes within metals. (Such as 302 from 308 stainless)

A sawsall. This is obvious. When your so mad and just give up my ryobi sawsall and a Diablo blade makes short work of cutting through anything from wood to reinforced iron to concrete. The ryobi has the best springs so if your strong enough it's worth it. If you can't handle the reverb (Many cant) on heavy cutting try a Milwaukee. They aren't as durable but don't have as much recoil either. Sort of like a shotgun vrs an m16. The ryobi will get it done faster but your shoulders pay the price.

Diablo blades are just about indestructible. They're expensive at $15-$20 a 2pack but I'm still on my FIRST of two blades since 2014 and use it daily. I ALSO took down a giant 3-foot wide tree in the yard with it. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:47 pm 

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Looks like my tool box, well except for the vise, I need to get one of those.
And you can never have enough bits, I am constantly changing bits, We have 3 Ryobi drills, they are a must.
The Dollar Store little screwdrivers are perfect for those tiny screws.
I see you have a heat gun, what do you use that for?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:50 pm 

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I'm actually a tech first and foremost so I use the heat gun for anything from heating board backs to cleanly remove components in blanking out boards, to forming custom plastic molds.
Three at 1800 against a ceramic pot in a semi sealed cover with some 80mm fans get raw copper bars hot enough to form.
At just 200°, the lowest setting on my smaller one, i can loosen wire insulation to cleanly strip cables quickly without actually melting/burning.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:04 pm 

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For a vise my usual suggestion is a 1-1.5 ton force vice, for table install. They weigh about 25lbs on average. The kind that have 4 feet with mounting holes.
I don't actually mount it. I use two 2 ton C-clamps to hold it when in use. That way it's on a shelf out of the way when not needed.
Vise $20-$30
C-clamps 2 @ $12

I've never had a problem with this setup. Just make sure you spin your clamps down real tight, and use a thick heavy surface. My table bench is hand made, doubled 2x4s in reverse lattice.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:55 pm 

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Oh man I never thought about the clamps, that is a great idea, I will have to look into those. At the warehouse I am getting my own room with A/C , hubby is setting it up for me. There is a nice big table in there so I will have to get the vise and clamps.

WOW on the heat gun, forming copper sounds cool. We get lots of copper at the recycling plant, if I got a heat gun there would be no stopping me hahahahahaha, I better stay away from that if we want to make a profit on the copper. LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:36 pm 

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SpaceCoastRecycling wrote:
WOW on the heat gun, forming copper sounds cool. We get lots of copper at the recycling plant, if I got a heat gun there would be no stopping me hahahahahaha, I better stay away from that if we want to make a profit on the copper. LOL

it takes a lot of fussing and trial to get it working but once you figure it out it works every time.
Basically a small convection oven. I built (cut) the shell from a scrap NAS box. And cut the holes for the heat guns and fans.
Keep in mind I said form, not forge. It doesn't melt but does get pliable so I can hammer out small heatsinks.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:54 pm 
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I currently have a small stockpile of al/cu heatsinks. Last year, I tried to sell them at the scrap yard, but they would not take them because the law stated that in order to get al/cu radiator pricing, I would need to show an AC tech license or letterhead from an AC company stating that I am authorized to sell the radiators. The scale attendant knew that my heat sinks were not AC parts, but did tell me that I could get better pricing by cutting them apart and separating out the copper. Because of this, I'm putting a dremel on my next tool to buy. Other than that, my only tools I use are a precision screwdriver set, and some standard screwdrivers. One of my flatheads is wrapped in electrical tape for shorting out large capacitors, such as CRT tubes.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:17 pm 

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So many of the laws in place are either cut and dry with no room for reality (ac parts, lol). Others are so ambiguous that they protect nothing. (WA copper rules).
But yes the cleaner it it the better the price. I split easy ones (eg dell, gateway) and Cu/Al the the tough ones with rivets (IBM hp etc).
I'm surprised they wouldn't give you cu/2 for them atleast.


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