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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:21 am 
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I want to be clear on this for every case that comes up and everything I grade.

‘Why is my board X and his/her board is Y different classing?!!? You stupid fool!”

Here’s a quick, repeated, breakdown of my grading.
I’ve sold to boardsort since ‘14.
Thanks to some extremely helpful and patient users I managed to get to more right than wrong. With a few shipments that surpassed 100LBs I built a relationship by calling and emailing Chris.
The only person in escrap to take the time (at that time) to actually have a discussion with me. Over these years I’ve had a somewhat more ‘inside’ understanding on some aspects of how Chris deals with a or b vs other companies that I have decade + relationships with.



My grading is based on multiple factors. However all grades are down to some key factors.

1) what Chris paid me last week, month, etc for that item
2) my best guess based on 1
3) 30~ years of dealing with escrap
4) knowing 75+% of components based on 3
5) when all else fails I will put it at the lower class I consider. I’m human. I make mistakes. If you question me ask me!

I have, had, and will have, access to thing 99.9% of things users won’t ever come across. From promo and beta to spec and internal. I’m a private, reclusive, semi-anti-social, specialised tech focusing primarily on things that rarely show up at boardsort.
A combination of honesty and lack of monetary dedication. If they say it’s unbreakable I’ll tell them how to break it. If they say it’s perfect I tell them why it’s not.
My lack of interest in ‘fame’ and hatred for Web 2.0 and social media means I’m likely to keep complaints in house.
Fix it and I’ll (quite literally) forget it.

Got something that is electric and from 1930? I’m your guy
Want to decide on refurb vs scrap on a 1970 pinball or slot machine? I’m here for you!

I legitimately have, control, and licence the world’s largest electrical parts database. Just shy of a full petabyte. A combination of a custom web crawler and scanning my collection of manuals, and copies of 7 country’s versions of the original computer shopper...!
Add to that a family history in photography that gave me nearly 50 years worth of B&H, Kodak, Western Electric, Tiger Direct, Sears/Kenmore... catalogs!
My interest in analogue computers and early computing.

I am 100% sure if a part isn’t in my database it is either 100% custom OR such a short run that it wasn’t ever in public hands. (Before 2018…my current year of looking).

My personal background in the gaming industry adds coverage for items the general public doesn’t know ever existed.
The SEGA Universe everything gaming computer system. The Atari Pam. The Commodore Two Five Six. A 255(lol) kb upgrade that died in prototype.

The 256-bit NeoGeo Successor.

All of this combines with other life experience to an accurate, and STILL generally humble, grader.

Ultimately, if I’m wrong, OR, think I’m wrong, simply question me. Publicly! I welcome being wrong even more than right. Best way to learn is stumble.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:23 pm 

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I started reading this board about a year may be a little less before I joined so it was sometime in 2014. Lost and two others were helping everyone who asked or just read the comments to learn what we needed to know. Lost has been doing a great job getting the job done and no help for the most part now. We all give some comments but the go to guy is Lost. I said it before and I will say it again...Thank you Lost for your help and patience.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:03 am 
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Your welcome AND thanks for the kind words.l

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:26 am 

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Location: I'm right here :D
I don't think I have ever seen this particular post before.

I knew you had a ton of experience and interest in board sorting :D

But didn't know all this. I appreciate you and hope you're doing well.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:12 am 
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For better and for worse, boardsort gets very little of what I get my hands on.
I’m more likely to desolder (grade changing) components than not. By the time I salvage what I wanted, the boards rarely make peripheral.

I’ll say this for Chris and the company: this is one of only two scrap companies I’ve ever dealt with that would pull material out of a pile and RAISE the price on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:58 am 

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Always appreciated your vast knowledge and your willingness to share it with us. But you know that sometimes we have to give grandpa a bit of bubble gum just to see his dentures stick together. Of course, haven't seen many people stump you, just like not many/any stump Ben Stein.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:45 pm 
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I’ll make grading mistakes. I’m the first one to admit that: see above.
But I guarantee I can find a part number reference before 2015. Most before 2018.

If you want to know what something does from last year I’ll likely point you to a web link. As I’ve done often.
If you want to know what that strange triangle chip in old Tandy computers and receivers is… now we’re cooking.
And if you want to know why it’s a triangle… ohh! I’ll discuss that for days! That’s a movie-level story.

I’m more the cat type. Curiosity. And like cats I’ve had my share of oops moments. Some of them quite painful. But I’m a hands on learner.

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